Thoughts on NY

[DTK]

Hi all-
I've not posted on here until now but was following the posts that have been taken down.

All I can say about the shows is that I was at both in NYC and Ginger and the band rocked!
I was especially impressed with Jase. Wow, he played a wicked guitar and sang all the harmonies!

On the subject of the shows being problematic.
I heard much about promotion, etc., which the street team and NYC fans did a great job of.
But frankly, here in NYC, the gig was listed as ''Nikki Camp presents'. This would certainly explain the lack of promotions, because although this guy is know as a 'promoter', the majority of NY bands say that he doesn't do anything but book the bands. Very little to earn the title of 'promoter' - self-given perhaps!

Anyway, it is too bad more people did not come to the shows whether from lack of advertising or other reasons. Any show with a great rock band is always well appreciated, especially those of Ginger/WH!

[kittykowalski]

Nikki Camp does have a bit of a dodgy reputation. He has been behaving himself since he has been booking at Don's, but you will hear a lot of mixed opinions from bands who have worked with him.

He does not flyer or poster his shows, either.

[geordierussell]

He does not flyer or poster his shows, either.

I can't understand the reasons behind that!!

[SteveP]

He does not flyer or poster his shows, either.

I can't understand the reasons behind that!!

More money in his pocket if he doesn't spend any on promoting the bands!!!!
Although it's probably not that simple

[cgpr]

Heard about NY gigs, shame it didnt work out as planned! UK gigs were awesome - well planned and managed, well publicised and all crew did a great job!

lets move on!!

[Bebe Buell]

Heard about NY gigs, shame it didnt work out as planned! UK gigs were awesome - well planned and managed, well publicised and all crew did a great job!

lets move on!!

There were excellent posters made- there were also fantastic one's made by Matt from Texas. They were hung everywhere. They were so cool that the fans took every last one of them, hahahaha! As soon as one would get hung, it would be taken just as fast.
At this point it is not worth pointing fingers or calling people "dodgy"- it is OVER! BUT, that said, the first night was still one of the best rock shows I have ever seen in my life. There was magic in the room and the band was spot on. ALL of them.

[Bebe Buell]

Heard about NY gigs, shame it didnt work out as planned! UK gigs were awesome - well planned and managed, well publicised and all crew did a great job!

lets move on!!

There were excellent posters made- there were also fantastic one's made by Matt from Texas. They were hung everywhere. They were so cool that the fans took every last one of them, hahahaha! As soon as one would get hung, it would be taken just as fast.
At this point it is not worth pointing fingers or calling people "dodgy"- it is OVER! BUT, that said, the first night was still one of the best rock shows I have ever seen in my life. There was magic in the room and the band was spot on. ALL of them.

May I also add that Don Hill's does not take out trade ads anymore either. They do all of their advertising on the internet at www.donhills.com and or word of mouth. They used to do ads in the Village Voice, Time Out and New York Press. That is a recent developement as well. I'm not sure I agree with that practice.
But the postering and word of mouth thing was done to the max. I can't say enough good things about the US Street Team gals in Chicago. And Matt in Texas- there were several people who worked their butts off for the show.
Someone mentioned that the Gorillaz played those nights too- a lot of people went there instead. Not my idea of a better evening but they are very popular in the States. A few of the people who actually purchased Pay Pal tickets for Ginger didn't show up to claim them- ODD indeed!
I still think that the first night was a very respectable crowd. AND each and every person there was a die hard fan too.
It was a great great night.

[neevee]

I did not attend the second night, but was at the first and it was truly a great, great night out. Along with my wife and myself, I brought my cousin and a friend of mine. Neither of those two people had hear Ginger or VDC before. My wife has seen the WH but had not listened to VDC. I have been a huge WH and Ginger fan since 1992.

We bought extra copies of VDC at the show and between the 4 of us, have not stopped listening to the CD since. It truly is a great CD, despite one or two doubters on this board.
The feedback I got from my friend and my cousin after the show was simple: Why is this guy (Ginger) not huge? He has great songs, great stage presence, and has a great band including himself. (I did not realise what a great guitar player he was, despite seeing him live several times)

I attempted to try to answer the question, but I'm not even sure of the answer why. Deep down I feel he just may be one of those talented artists who never really make it big.

Maybe, just maybe, that is a good thing.

[Morgan]

im down with neevee. my wife and I also attended the first night but couldn't make the second. it was an awesome show. ginger always puts out a great show. not as well attended as the last Wildhearts show years ago but a good amount of people for a solo project.
We already owned Valor and enjoy it and enjoyed the show. Props to the NYC and Chicago people who we met, nice all. And thanks to Bebe for the drink ticket and concern over my bum foot.
Ginger is a great presence, songwriter, and all neevee said. Any personal stuff is his to tell us in song. So,we will wait for his next batch.

[Morgan]

also forgot to respond to DTK. yeah ive played in bands that have been burned by Nikki Camp, but unfortunately there are not many other promoters to take his place. still i gotta say, isnt a promoters job to promote the bands- no posters indeed!

also wanted to weigh in on the Jase comment. Obviously Jon rocks, naught more to say there, Conny is great and truely has that whole rock star persona. its a shame that Edwards doesnt seem to get more recognition. it looked and sounded like he was a big part of holding it all together. sure hes not the pretty boy to dance around the stage and make the chick go wild- thats Conny's job- but damn that JE has to the chops. His guitar work had my wife hollering like a banshee! Later- M

[Piedude]

...concern over my bum foot.

Whats a Bum Foot?

[Morgan]

you must be a brit. so that probably does sound a bit sketchy. its a hurt or lame foot. i sprained my ankle the day of the show but as much as my wife tried to keep me in the house- i wasnt gonna miss the show! - M

[psychodoyle2002]

also forgot to respond to DTK. yeah ive played in bands that have been burned by Nikki Camp, but unfortunately there are not many other promoters to take his place. still i gotta say, isnt a promoters job to promote the bands- no posters indeed!

also wanted to weigh in on the Jase comment. Obviously Jon rocks, naught more to say there, Conny is great and truely has that whole rock star persona. its a shame that Edwards doesnt seem to get more recognition. it looked and sounded like he was a big part of holding it all together. sure hes not the pretty boy to dance around the stage and make the chick go wild- thats Conny's job- but damn that JE has to the chops. His guitar work had my wife hollering like a banshee! Later- M

Absolutely, when I was at the Islington gig they were setting up and I said "oooohhh Jase is over there" and my mate just went "Of all the cool people in this band YOU get excited over Jase Edwards." My response was an almighty "Shit yeah!"

Wolfsbane were a great band.

[daphe.ltd]

Jase Edwards, Conny Bloom, Ginger, and Random Jon Poole right in front of me on one stage. Four fabulous guitar players---iIt was heaven I tell you, heaven! And even the second night, too!

-daphe

[weebleboy]

Jase Edwards, Conny Bloom, Ginger, and Random Jon Poole right in front of me on one stage. Four fabulous guitar players---iIt was heaven I tell you, heaven! And even the second night, too!

-daphe

Very good point, well made! Nothing more needs to be said!