STOP US... OUT NOW!! DOWNLOAD DETAiLS HERE!

[Ginger_Is_God]

Well I'm just gonna have to wait for the CD release !

As I'm a Open Source user (Linux to the Microshit sheeple)

I managed to get round the whole Internet Explorer (Designed like a T-Bag) thingy with a clever plug-in from Mozilla !

But I simply refuse to use anything that can only be used on Windows, for fucks sake there are more than one OS out there, company's like the one's Ginger is using should be sued for making Microsoft a monoploy.

Oh well punished again for having standards and wanting a OS that works how I want it to, not how Bill Gates want me to. And dosen't dial home to Redmond to tell them I'm using official products etc !!!!

Music downloads is the future but unless we the public kick Microsoft up the arse we'll be paying £'s every time we want to move our music to another device.

OK rant over, but be warned !!!

[Damian]

How does that stop you signing up with eMusic and downloading DRM-free MP3s?

[Ginger_Is_God]

Well spotted Damian

I sit corrected (we'll on some points)

Just gotta sit down and compile some code now hehe

[Ean]

iTunes will run quite happily on some flavours of Linux too.

iTunes with Wine tutorial.

[Ginger_Is_God]

Thanks Ean

But Itunes (Shudders) Mac is probably worse than Microsoft (Non open source) to be honest.

I've got e-music installed as we speak.

Just gotta check a few things out then away i go !

[Ginger_Is_God]

Well i read the T&C's and here ya go !

5.7 eMusic derives its rights to use the media offered on the Service from artists and record labels, publishers and other third parties for fixed periods of time and, sometimes, for limited territories. As well, eMusic is sometimes required to pull certain media off the Service for legal reasons. Therefore, certain media offered or advertised by eMusic may not be available when you try to download, and not all media are available in all countries. Furthermore, you are prohibited from using or accessing the Service if you live in a country outside of the Service territory, currently the United States and member states of the European Union.

No DRM eh, - Fixed periods of time?
Limited Territories?

How can you do that without DRM

I know Gingers stuff won't have these limitations but come on, it still gives them the right to dictate the use of something we have paid for , Civil rights anyone?

Think I'll stick to CD's

But thanks for your help peeps

[Ean]

Yes. It means that they can only sell certain downloads for a fixed period of time; then they will be removed from sale: not removed from use.

Some tracks will not be offered for sale at all in some territories for whatever reason - most likely that the record is not due for release in those territories, or the artist is contracted to a different record label in those territories, or a lack of distribution deals, or a problem with royalty agreements, or about a thousand other reasons - on the whole, legal agreements don't travel; that's why there are 22 iTunes stores, not just one.

How can they do it without DRM? Erm, you've just signed up - they know where you live and where your method of payment is registered, DRM has nothing to do with it - it happens before you download: if you live somewhere where where you can't download something, it won't let you download it.

[vickyp]

I hope no one else was stupid enough to use Tesco Digital like me.

I still don't have my album. 4 messages sent (one per night) to customer services and still no reply. Problem on their side. No fixee. The customer services helpline helpfully doesn't work.
I have demanded my money back.

moral of the story: Don't shop at Tesco, kids!

[Damian]

Well i read the T&C's and here ya go !

5.7 eMusic derives its rights to use the media offered on the Service from artists and record labels, publishers and other third parties for fixed periods of time and, sometimes, for limited territories. As well, eMusic is sometimes required to pull certain media off the Service for legal reasons. Therefore, certain media offered or advertised by eMusic may not be available when you try to download, and not all media are available in all countries. Furthermore, you are prohibited from using or accessing the Service if you live in a country outside of the Service territory, currently the United States and member states of the European Union.

No DRM eh, - Fixed periods of time?
Limited Territories?

How can you do that without DRM

I know Gingers stuff won't have these limitations but come on, it still gives them the right to dictate the use of something we have paid for , Civil rights anyone?

Think I'll stick to CD's

But thanks for your help peeps

No - that just covers the stuff that's out of their control - for instance, they'd love to sell every album in every country but are sometimes prevented from doing so. It's very rarely the case on there, and it isn't for the Wildhearts album. The 'fixed time' bit means they can pull the album off the site if they want (or are made to for reasons beyond their control). I can guarantee you that every single download on the site is a DRM-free MP3, including the Wildhearts album.

I was so impressed actually that I upgraded my subscription to the £15.99 one, as there's loads I want on there. When I get the next allocation (85) next month there's an absolute ton of stuff... the whole Half Man Half Biscuit back catalogue for one!

You sound like a man worried that every time you walk out the door, Bill Gates is hiding round the corner ready to pop a cap in your ass!

[SiN1758]

I was so impressed actually that I upgraded my subscription to the £15.99 one, as there's loads I want on there. When I get the next allocation (85) next month there's an absolute ton of stuff... the whole Half Man Half Biscuit back catalogue for one!

Me & you both! I'm really impressed with this site, it's a like an online version of ChangesOne! All the stuff that's independant (to mean hard to find in the shops) is on here ready to go!

[EMMO]

when does the CD come out?
also where are people pre-odering it from?
cheers

[Ean]

There's no date so far, and I've not seen it listed anywhere in physical form, but the Japanese version comes out on July 2nd so it might be at about the same time.