The Wildhearts

Sorry, this is a little prolonged, but why is it that anytime I hear the Scarborough Castle gig mentioned it's always saturated in criticism?

I've heard mixed reviews about it, just want to know what the score was?

Own that Geordie live CD, and that left a lot to be desired to be perfectly honest...

Thnaks

VladDracii wrote:Sorry, this is a little prolonged, but why is it that anytime I hear the Scarborough Castle gig mentioned it's always saturated in criticism?

I've heard mixed reviews about it, just want to know what the score was?

Own that Geordie live CD, and that left a lot to be desired to be perfectly honest...

Thnaks

it was very very very very cold
90% of the bands were good
the wildhearts were great - sound was a little crap due to strong winds and stuff
the beer que was ridiculous (there was 1 beer tent i found myself buying 5 pints at a time)
the dvd pretty much says it all


oh yeah something that been plauging me for ages, did they play top of the world at the show, i dont think tey did but my (sober mate) swore that they did

I would merely direct you here and let you make your own mind up:-

Scarborough - Why Was It Bad???

TOTW's not on the album or DVD, and I'm pretty sure they didn't cut anything - It wasn't long enough to need cutting...

From memory everybody lost money on it, probably including the bands and especially the promoters. There where no merchandise there at all, apart from 'market stall' type hats and English Hertiage gloves and hats.

I remember it being a lovely beautiful sunny day that turned into a cold evening right beside the sea. It was freezing.... and I had planned to spend some money on a Wildhearts /Terrorvision t-shirts / hoodies so I clothed light!

It also took too much effort to get drunk and who wants a nice cool beer when your freezing your nuts off and have to queue for 2 hours to get it.

Bbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrr !

The Wildhearts and Terrorvision where great though - and singing Geordie in Wonderland with Ginger on acoustic guitar will always be a great memory for me.

It was a wonderful weekend as a whole. Stayed in a lovely B&B from Friday to Sunday. Met up and went drinking with a load of Wildhearts fans, most of whom I'd never met before, on the Friday night.

Saturday was a bright, sunny and initially warm day that turned freezing later on. But if you got up and stood in the crowd and jumped a bit then you noticed less. There was some great stuff on the stages - Plan A, Robochrist (oh yes), 80s Matchbox (who were brilliant) and Terrorvision (who are never anything less than brilliant). The Wildhearts, as you'd see on the DVD, didn't do their best show but it was still a good one. And the setting was gorgeous.

Against this, there was an issue with the organisers going bankrupt I think? Pretty sure that just about nobody got paid. It's why Jackdaw4 pulled out. Also that's why there was only that little bar - the "proper" one was pulled at the last minute by the people than ran it. Again, my recollection could be wrong. So basically, I'm guessing it was a nightmare for the musicians generally, but it was still a great day for the punter. I don't know of anybody that didn't enjoy it. It's just a shame about the money side, because I would have loved for something like this to be attempted again. Still would.

I thought it was a bloody brilliant day out

I still feel cold just thinking about it. I'm off to warm up.

There may have been other circumstances involved, but the Goerdie In Wonderland live album is literally riddled with problems. It was just not a good performance at all. If I could go through the entire Wildhearts discography and "unrelease" any single album, that would probably be the one.

nuno75 wrote:There may have been other circumstances involved, but the Goerdie In Wonderland live album is literally riddled with problems. It was just not a good performance at all. If I could go through the entire Wildhearts discography and "unrelease" any single album, that would probably be the one.

Absoloutly agree, was it an official release? Did the carry the bands concent?

VladDracii wrote:

nuno75 wrote:There may have been other circumstances involved, but the Goerdie In Wonderland live album is literally riddled with problems. It was just not a good performance at all. If I could go through the entire Wildhearts discography and "unrelease" any single album, that would probably be the one.

Absoloutly agree, was it an official release? Did the carry the bands concent?

Nope, the band got no money from the gig - As mentioned earlier, promotoers legged it a few days before the gig. The CD and DVD went out withput bands permission.

VladDracii wrote:Absoloutly agree, was it an official release? Did the carry the bands concent?

Nope, it was knocked out by the production company to try and recoup their losses because they didn't get paid for their work either and wouldn't release the footage to the band - not that it was likely to have seen the light of day in any hurry if the band had got control of it.

and a few of the bands ran over during the day which accoumilated(? ) in the wildies coming on about 30 mins late and had to cut down their set which was unfair being the headliners an all.

Yeah, as always Ean you speak volumes, I mean just compare the intro of Nita Nitro from 'Strike back' to the 'Geordie'.....doesn't even compare does it.......

Hell... as soon as the band kicks in on I Wanna Go.... first thing someone hits entirely the wrong chord.

nig1012 wrote:and a few of the bands ran over during the day which accoumilated(? ) in the wildies coming on about 30 mins late and had to cut down their set which was unfair being the headliners an all.

I seem to remember that the gates were about an hour late opening as well, cos we were in the pub at the bottom of the hill and we kept peeking outside the door to see if they were letting people in yet, and coming back in saying "nope, might as well have another pint in here".