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Agent Good

PostPosted: 7th Jul 09, 21:32
by Owen
Does anybody know if the song 'Agent Good' was ever recorded?


http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hamnet/wildht.htm

PostPosted: 7th Jul 09, 22:50
by Sarc
Thats the first time I've ever hear about this one.

PostPosted: 14th Jul 09, 10:50
by BGennard
heard the title mentioned way back in the early 90's around the time phuq, it was mentioned in an article in raw i believe, they also mentioned a few other unreleased track at the time like, truth, Church Of the Broken Hearted, song formerly know as, agent good, just stay, etc......

I still thing Round Records should put them all up in the high quality mp3 format for us to purchase, or put together an official bootleg of sorts including amongst the ones im bound to forget,

TRUTH,
CHURCH OF THE BROKEN HEARTED
JUST STAY
U WANNA
SADDENED
SONG FORMERLY KNOWN AS
AGENT GOOD
PUSH
JOHNNY WASH N GO
WILD ZERO
ABHORIA
VELEVT PRESLEY
STUPID THINGS
TOM TAKE THE MONEY
STATE OF NONDEPENANCE
RIDE THE WAVE
ZEEN REQUIUM

PLUS ALL THE SNAKE DEMOS AND

PLUS A FEW GINGER RARITIES LIKE
BEER FOR BREAKFAST
IF I WERE YOU ID KISS ME
MOLLY O MINDY
FRICTION TO THE SYSTEM
FRANKENSTIEN 2000
SAME AGAIN


i know that most of us have heard alot of these tracks in one form or another, but wouldnt you love to hear them in presteen quality?

also theres the rest of the songs that Ginger says he had written to complete the singles club project (although they never got recorded), id love to hear those!!

PostPosted: 14th Jul 09, 11:43
by DangerousBeans
You can get the Snake demos here

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/2920 ... ab=summary

but with no seeds and one lurker(probly me as i managed to download themover the space of a week)it may take a while

PostPosted: 14th Jul 09, 12:19
by Ean
Oddly, Snake apparently doesn't feature on the Snake demos:

7 August - 13 August 1990 Ric Browde produces Wild Hearts demos at Jacobs studios. Five tracks are recorded: Please Baby Please, Unsociable Emotions, Wild Wine & Whiskey, Viva L'Amour and Kiss My Arse Before You Say Goodbye. Snake has recently left the band, and it's his replacement Duncan (aka - ahem - Dunken F. Mullett, ex-Mournblade) who sings on these demos. However, Snake soon returns, ousting Duncan.


Your best bet for that stuff is the bootleg hub.

I wouldn't hold your breath for high quality versions though. There's a reason why most of them have ended up being copies of copies. :?

PostPosted: 14th Jul 09, 14:25
by Jason_scorching_past
Does anyone think the Snake demo songs are any good? They are interesting from a historic point of view but it sounds like a different band for most of them, not just cos of the singer. I vaguely recall one that sounds like it became Love you Till I Don't. Must admit I haven't listened to them in years so could be talking crap here.

Re Zeen Requiem, that will get some sort of official release surely, B-side I imagine?

PostPosted: 14th Jul 09, 15:43
by Ean
Wild Wine And Whiskey, and Kiss My Arse Before You Say Goodbye are pretty good, but the others are only good for playing spot the riff. :wink:

You never know, Zeen Requiem might turn up as one of the Japanese bonus tracks?

PostPosted: 16th Jul 09, 01:07
by WiredOut
Noticed Wild Zero on your list there. I bought a high-quality mp3 or mpeg of that from either iTunes or Amazon mp3s recently where they had the 'I Love Guitar Wolf...' album. Can't actually remember which place/format. I know the iTunes ones are copy-restricted mpegs or whatever but whichever it was it sounded great burned onto a cd. If that's any use?

PostPosted: 16th Jul 09, 02:51
by nuno75
I have a good MP3 file of "Wild Zero" that I'd be willing to post here ifI had permission from the admins.

PostPosted: 16th Jul 09, 12:20
by Sarc
NOpe not gonna happen, its commercially available so thats a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig no no

PostPosted: 16th Jul 09, 14:16
by DarrenStockford
Ean wrote:Oddly, Snake apparently doesn't feature on the Snake demos:

Ah, those August 1990 'Duncan demos' are different from the Snake ones, which are accounted for elsewhere in the timeline (they're back a page, in 1989).

I couldn't remember where I sourced the info about the August 1990 recordings, but I've dug out an old email I sent to someone who was enquiring about them in 2002. I'll reproduce that here as it covers it quite nicely, I think.

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Ah, yes, the old Snake / Duncan demo conundrum. I can pretty much guarantee that, of the tracks you listed, Snake sings them all. There's no mistaking that vocal. Duncan sounds like a kind of cross between Dave Vanian from The Damned and The Cult's Ian Astbury (note: very rough approximation), at least he does on Mournblade's Live Fast Die Young LP, which he recorded before he joined The Wildhearts.

I've not heard the Duncan demos. In fact, I had no idea that they even existed for ages. When the first version of that WH Chronology came out (in the Japanese Moodswings And Roundabouts boxed set), I had no knowledge of any Dunc demos. If you've got the original English or Japanese booklets from 1997, you'll notice that there's no mention of them. However, when I sent the expanded 1999 version to Ginger, who was staying in LA with Ric Browde at the time, Ric knocked a bit more of the demo history into shape.

There was a bit of a debate about the existence of 'the Duncan tapes' on The Wildhearts Mailing List last year, because no one had ever heard them. So I asked Ginger for the lowdown, and he said that the demos did exist, but "they're property of Ric Browde, who paid for them. Pretty fortunate for us really as they turned out fucking terrible. Duncan wouldn't sing unless he was well lubricated on his favorite tipple, Bourbon, so you can imagine how chaotic (but fun) the sessions were! The songs were the same ones as the Snake demos. We used the backing tracks and attempted to put Duncan's vocals on top. Didn't work. End of line-up!"

So, it looks like the 'Dunc Tapes' were never properly issued, and are still locked up in Ric's vaults, which probably explains why, unlike the Snake ones, they haven't been bootlegged over the years.

As for the recording dates... to be honest, four and a bit years after the event, I don't have total recall on where I got some of the dates I included in the chronology. I think that a lot of the demo stuff might have been mentioned in a Record Collector article (the November 1995 issue, if I recall). But they were checked over by Ginger and Ric, and neither disputed them. Not that that means they're definitely correct, but hey, it's all I've got to go on right now!
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PostPosted: 17th Jul 09, 23:48
by Ean
DarrenStockford wrote:
Ean wrote:Oddly, Snake apparently doesn't feature on the Snake demos:

Ah, those August 1990 'Duncan demos' are different from the Snake ones, which are accounted for elsewhere in the timeline (they're back a page, in 1989).

Well, you learn something new... :wink:

That bit slipped by me because there aren't any titles mentioned. Somebody else told me about it being Duncan singing too, but I'm buggered if I can remember who it was? :?