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Postby melx » 7th Aug 09, 19:39

nuno75 wrote:I think it sounds more American because the chords are all pretty standard. English stuff, especially the Wildhearts, seems to not stick to the standard stuff... coloring within the lines, so to speak... as much as Americans do. At least that's the best I can come up with to describe that distinctly English feel that shows through in so much music over the years.

Even all the way back to early Beatles... you sit down and take a chord progression from one of those songs and compare it to someone like Buddy Holly, and you'll see that Holly's progressions are all pretty much "by the book" and the Beatles stuff would be a lot of stuff that makes you say, "Wow... how did they make that work? That should sound terrible".


The Pixies, Fugazi, Shellac, All, Pavement...... all that 'math rock' stuff, there's loads of American bands that don't use 'standard stuff'

I think that's a pretty bad generalisation, I know what you are getting at though... but I think it's something else, I don't know what though!!!
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Postby Jason_scorching_past » 7th Aug 09, 21:51

The Sun says -

'Brit rockers outdo Green Day with a catchy-as-hell midpacer from dazzling new album Chutzpah!'
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Postby Sarc » 7th Aug 09, 21:54

Jason_scorching_past wrote:The Sun says -

'Brit rockers outdo Green Day with a catchy-as-hell midpacer from dazzling new album Chutzpah!'


Not that I'm taking anything away from the Wildhearts but it's not exacly hard is it, 21st century breakdown is wank.
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Postby spoon_of_grimbo » 7th Aug 09, 22:41

nuno75 wrote:
Sarc wrote:
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Sarc wrote:Yup tuned down to G


G?

Holy shit that's low. :lol:


I had a complete brain fart when I typed that,I meant C. Basically the tuning as far as I'm aware for this album is

E down to C
A down to G
D down to C
G down to F#
B down to A
e down to d



Ahhh... well that's a relief. I was trying to picture what the strings would be like tuned that far down and I just couldn't picture it being playable at all.

That's actually my preferred tuning, except for the E down to C part. I like to go a full-step down all the way across, on a seven-string... but right now, because of the band I'm in, I'm stuck at only a half-step... which isn't terrible, I guess.


i've got my guitar tuned (from lowest to highest): G, G, Bb, D, G, Bb. really weird chord shapes a-gogo but i've come up with some good stuff. for reference, that low G is a whole octave lower than the next string, if it was any looser it would pretty much sound like a broken string being played... i find that weird tunings encourage me to stay away from the usual stuff that i'd fall back on.
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Postby markE » 7th Aug 09, 22:49

i know you can' t tell much from the few seconds of the preview tracks but everything is sounding great to me so far.
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Postby Pacman » 7th Aug 09, 22:57

I've decided not to listen to the preview clips anymore, just doesn't do them justice. After my 1st full listen to The Only One I was sooooo disappointed, probably because i'd heard a little bit of it, 2nd listen was better, but now I'm getting it. I just wanna hear the whole album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Jason_scorching_past » 7th Aug 09, 22:58

Sarc wrote:
Jason_scorching_past wrote:The Sun says -

'Brit rockers outdo Green Day with a catchy-as-hell midpacer from dazzling new album Chutzpah!'


Not that I'm taking anything away from the Wildhearts but it's not exacly hard is it, 21st century breakdown is wank.


Well, i wouldn't say wank as such, I wasn't particularly impressed with it either but I spose it's a fair reference point and I guess they are the no.1 rock band at the moment going by Kerrang! and chart success (?)
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Postby melx » 7th Aug 09, 23:25

Jason_scorching_past wrote:
Sarc wrote:
Jason_scorching_past wrote:The Sun says -

'Brit rockers outdo Green Day with a catchy-as-hell midpacer from dazzling new album Chutzpah!'


Not that I'm taking anything away from the Wildhearts but it's not exacly hard is it, 21st century breakdown is wank.


Well, i wouldn't say wank as such, I wasn't particularly impressed with it either but I spose it's a fair reference point and I guess they are the no.1 rock band at the moment going by Kerrang! and chart success (?)


I dunno man, I wouldn't put them above Foo Fighters or Muse...but maybe that's just because I'm old and out of touch!!
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Postby Ean » 7th Aug 09, 23:44

Jason_scorching_past wrote:
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Jason_scorching_past wrote:The Sun says -

'Brit rockers outdo Green Day with a catchy-as-hell midpacer from dazzling new album Chutzpah!'


Not that I'm taking anything away from the Wildhearts but it's not exacly hard is it, 21st century breakdown is wank.


Well, i wouldn't say wank as such, I wasn't particularly impressed with it either but I spose it's a fair reference point and I guess they are the no.1 rock band at the moment going by Kerrang! and chart success (?)

It's not wank. It is overlong though.
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Postby burgerrock » 8th Aug 09, 10:47

WiredOut wrote:I think it's fine but having heard it 8 or 9 times I don't think I would be much affected if it suddenly disappeared forever. If I was told after the first play that there had been a distribution mix-up and it was some middling American band rather than the Wildhearts I'd probably have believed it and never thought about the song again.

Still, it might give an interesting contrast to other styles within the course of the album.


Totally agree. Nice tune but not really a lead single. Didn't i read somewhere that Scott wrote it? So written and sung by an American probably makes it sound American (if the boys all start getting bad haircuts im going to start worrying..). If you hadnt told me it was the wildhearts i probably wouldnt have guessed.

Was looking forward to hearing Gingers rasp on the first new material in 2 years

Oh well, fingers crossed for the album.
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Postby markE » 10th Aug 09, 11:32

is there anywhere to listen to the single without downloading it?. i want to listen at work but we are not allowed to download stuff.
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Postby Keith Richard » 10th Aug 09, 11:36

burgerrock wrote:
WiredOut wrote:I think it's fine but having heard it 8 or 9 times I don't think I would be much affected if it suddenly disappeared forever. If I was told after the first play that there had been a distribution mix-up and it was some middling American band rather than the Wildhearts I'd probably have believed it and never thought about the song again.

Still, it might give an interesting contrast to other styles within the course of the album.


Totally agree. Nice tune but not really a lead single. Didn't i read somewhere that Scott wrote it? So written and sung by an American probably makes it sound American (if the boys all start getting bad haircuts im going to start worrying..). If you hadnt told me it was the wildhearts i probably wouldnt have guessed.

Was looking forward to hearing Gingers rasp on the first new material in 2 years

Oh well, fingers crossed for the album.


I think that I would probably have guessed the Wildhearts. It still has trademark melodies and chord changes - just not as extreme. Ginger's already admitted that this is the most "poppy" track on the album. I prefer it over "New Flesh" and a couple of tracks from TWMBD.
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Postby nuno75 » 10th Aug 09, 19:21

I think I would have recognized it as at least related to the Wildhearts because Ginger's voice is pretty clear during the chorus.
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Postby shat noir » 10th Aug 09, 20:58

Took a while to get used to not hearing Ginger but I'm really liking the song now 8)

Why was there not a video made for this single? Seems strange that they didn't bother :?
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Postby Andwah » 10th Aug 09, 21:15

I don't remember a Sweetest Song vid either, was there?
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