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Postby Piedude » 21st Apr 07, 12:58

Ean wrote:
pete wrote:as i havent got home to discover if its arrived yet
can anyone tell me of any gusets or backing singers on it
Vix ? Andy cairns ?


Jase is on there, and Dick Decent, and a bunch of other people who I don't know. Nobody who can't wait till you get home though. :wink:


The booklet says Joolz too, would this be Joolz from long ago?
And I finally listened to you guys and ordered an album from Cargo, turned up this morning, only complaint was how long it took me to peel away all the Cargo sellotape with my fingers to get to the goodness inside, but thats only a teensy complaint.
But yes, new album, FANTASTIC. I accuse the 3 K reviewer in Kerrang and anyone who doesnt like it of not having ears. The New Flesh has one of the best verses in a Wildhearts song in my opinion, cant wait for that to be all over tv/radio in the summer. Only spotted one reference to another bands song so far, I think its in the Hard Way.. "All fucked up and ready to go", just like "All dressed up and ready to go", Rise Of The Eagles, 80's Matchbox b-line disaster....who played Scarborough didnt they?
Anyway, after a couple of spins I give it 2 thumbs up and a big grin.
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Postby Ean » 21st Apr 07, 13:12

Piedude wrote:
Ean wrote:
pete wrote:as i havent got home to discover if its arrived yet
can anyone tell me of any gusets or backing singers on it
Vix ? Andy cairns ?


Jase is on there, and Dick Decent, and a bunch of other people who I don't know. Nobody who can't wait till you get home though. :wink:


The booklet says Joolz too, would this be Joolz from long ago?


*shrugs* Dunno. :?
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Postby dds14 » 21st Apr 07, 16:57

I must say that, like Yoni, I didn't like it at first (I am assuming that the downloaded version is the final mix - and yes the "real" one is coming from Amazon).

Starting to get into it a bit more - love Bi-Polar Baby and The Hard Way sounds like a grown up version of One Rung Up From Misery by the B-Movie Heroes.

But I don't think there's enough classic Wildhearts harmonies through the rest of it to immediately grab me and some of the other tracks (eg Rooting For The Bad Guy) are falling into the latest Ginger trend of making every song 25% longer than it needs to be.

I think it will be a grower (like Yoni) - personally I think a lot of the songs are in the Endless Nameless style rather than PHUQ or Earth Vs - but that's my opinion on a couple of listens.

I can see why some reviewers don't like it though.
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Postby firedup » 21st Apr 07, 18:42

dds14 wrote:I must say that, like Yoni, I didn't like it at first (I am assuming that the downloaded version is the final mix - and yes the "real" one is coming from Amazon).

Starting to get into it a bit more - love Bi-Polar Baby and The Hard Way sounds like a grown up version of One Rung Up From Misery by the B-Movie Heroes.

But I don't think there's enough classic Wildhearts harmonies through the rest of it to immediately grab me and some of the other tracks (eg Rooting For The Bad Guy) are falling into the latest Ginger trend of making every song 25% longer than it needs to be.

I think it will be a grower (like Yoni) - personally I think a lot of the songs are in the Endless Nameless style rather than PHUQ or Earth Vs - but that's my opinion on a couple of listens.

I can see why some reviewers don't like it though.



The backlash begins! :wink:
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Postby skychaserhigh » 21st Apr 07, 19:24

dds14 wrote:I must say that, like Yoni, I didn't like it at first (I am assuming that the downloaded version is the final mix - and yes the "real" one is coming from Amazon).

Starting to get into it a bit more - love Bi-Polar Baby and The Hard Way sounds like a grown up version of One Rung Up From Misery by the B-Movie Heroes.

But I don't think there's enough classic Wildhearts harmonies through the rest of it to immediately grab me and some of the other tracks (eg Rooting For The Bad Guy) are falling into the latest Ginger trend of making every song 25% longer than it needs to be.

I think it will be a grower (like Yoni) - personally I think a lot of the songs are in the Endless Nameless style rather than PHUQ or Earth Vs - but that's my opinion on a couple of listens.

I can see why some reviewers don't like it though.


Do you have ears ? :shock:
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Postby dds14 » 21st Apr 07, 19:27

Yes, and enough of a brain to not blindly love everything by one artist.
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Postby skychaserhigh » 21st Apr 07, 19:44

dds14 wrote:Yes, and enough of a brain to not blindly love everything by one artist.


I Must repeat

DO YOU HAVE EARS :wink:

Just kiddung mate if you don't like some of it fair enough, don't think any of it sounds like endless nameless through
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Postby dds14 » 21st Apr 07, 19:52

skychaserhigh wrote:
dds14 wrote:Yes, and enough of a brain to not blindly love everything by one artist.


I Must repeat

DO YOU HAVE EARS :wink:

Just kiddung mate if you don't like some of it fair enough, don't think any of it sounds like endless nameless through


Like I said on a couple of listens I think the riffs etc on the first few tracks sound much like some of the EN riffs (minus the "got to be on drugs" distortion).

I love Bipolar Baby but still can't get into a lot of the rest of it. Yoni was like that for me for ages but it slowly grew. I'm not a fan of the extended length of some of the songs on either Yoni or this - I think it does a lot to stop me getting into TW more.
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Postby WiredOut » 21st Apr 07, 20:14

inglorious01 wrote:
pete wrote:bah artwork is never much cop with cd's is it
shame the PHUQ artist passed on he did some wierd but great stuff


I believe the artist commited suicide a year or two after the release of Phuq.


As someone said above, it was Danny Deen - 'The Monkey Zoo' was written about his suicide and dedicated to him.
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Postby Soundog » 21st Apr 07, 21:36

Piedude wrote:Only spotted one reference to another bands song so far, I think its in the Hard Way.. "All fucked up and ready to go", just like "All dressed up and ready to go", Rise Of The Eagles, 80's Matchbox b-line disaster....who played Scarborough didnt they?


I think is "All fucked up and ready to roll", don't know whether that's a reference. I'm sure that "Standing at the Gates of the West" (The Clash) is, though, as well as "Ghost [of the] Town" (The Specials). So I'd have welcomed The Revolution Will Be Televised to contain a splash of ska... but it's still a cool song.
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Postby SuperJake » 21st Apr 07, 21:37

So far I think it's great, Best Tracks:

Rooting For The Badguy
The Sweetest Song
The H ard Way
Destroy All Monsters

Still need to listen to it more, though I think Bi-Polar Baby seems more of a Ginger solo track then a WH's.
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Postby Keith Richard » 21st Apr 07, 23:05

Soundog wrote:
Piedude wrote:Only spotted one reference to another bands song so far, I think its in the Hard Way.. "All fucked up and ready to go", just like "All dressed up and ready to go", Rise Of The Eagles, 80's Matchbox b-line disaster....who played Scarborough didnt they?


I think is "All fucked up and ready to roll", don't know whether that's a reference. I'm sure that "Standing at the Gates of the West" (The Clash) is, though, as well as "Ghost [of the] Town" (The Specials). So I'd have welcomed The Revolution Will Be Televised to contain a splash of ska... but it's still a cool song.


"All fucked up and ready to roll" it is.
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Postby davejnick » 22nd Apr 07, 00:25

Just got home from the local, having spent most of the night trying to listen to what people were saying while singing about Tweety Pie and the Thunderbirds in my head.

So I think we can quite safely say that "Rooting..." is as catchy as fuck, even if a couple of the others aren't. Yet.
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Postby geordierussell » 22nd Apr 07, 00:25

SuperJake wrote:Still need to listen to it more, though I think Bi-Polar Baby seems more of a Ginger solo track then a WH's.



I agree, yet it's my fave track and should/could be a single.
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Postby Keith Richard » 22nd Apr 07, 05:45

I'm now way past my 10th listen....it's been a bit of a roller coaster ride since it wasn't quite what I was expecting. But, I can say this: STUNNING. AWESOME, MAGNIFICENT!! Much of the content of this album has the "feel" of those wonderous "B" sides of the early nineties. Stand out tracks for me so far: "Rooting....", "The Revolution....", "The Hard Way", and "Bi-Polar Baby". To these ears, this IS the Wildhearts. Brilliant, genius, and classic.

Also, the album sounds fuckin superb...nice one Jase!!!

Ginger, CJ, Rich, Scott....thank you and congratulations on this absolute masterpiece! Cant wait to hear this stuff live. See you in May.

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