The all-new Zo(and now everyone else)'s frustration thread..

[Chris Davies]

Itunes is great when its working fine , but when it buggers up it really does. Its like my worst nightmare.

A tip from me is never upgrade your itunes. I learnt that the hard way by having to delete everything of my ipod then putting it all back on there , each disk one by one. It was a very painful couple of days. I hope you dont have to do the same

[Ean]

Hmmm, never had a problem upgrading, dunno what that's about - I never use itunes as a player though (great as a library it may be), it's too heavy on my system.

Rob, you're probably better off trying to clean it out completely and download the newest one from the apple site. Chances are the firmware on your ipod has been updated, so if you try to roll back to an earlier version of itunes, they might have problems talking to one another.

[Chris Davies]

I think my problem was that I never used the ipod manually, scince I have been its been working fine using two different ipods.

Umm and I think if you've already installed the newest version of itunes you always have to stick with it and cant have any of the older version. I think not 100% though. I did that with windows media player , upgraded to the newest one decided I didnt really like it and wanted to switch back and couldnt. But now magically both my media and itunes are great and my pc seems to be healthy these days

[Ean]

My Pc's in great health, it's just getting on a bit (nearly six years old). It was pretty much top of the line when I got it, but with all the security software you have running in the background these days, it has problems keeping up.

You can roll back to an earlier version of itunes, assuming you have the disc/download of it, the patience to clean the newer one out of your system, and the earlier firmware (and you're prepared to dick around with your ipod), but there's no point. As soon as you go online it'll try to upgrade itself to the newest version anyway.

[Robdj]

Anyone know if i definitely get a refund if i cancel the amazon order? I'm not waiting another f!cking month - 6 weeks
Don't understand the problem. Pre-ordered for the first time to aviod dissappoinment and for convenience - yeah right!

[Ean]

If they haven't shipped it, you won't have been charged yet - if they have shipped it, you won't be able to cancel it anyway.

The problem is that it's been sat squarely in the top ten hot pre-orders list for ages, which means it's pretty popular, the same as HMV Japan. Unfortunately some people are going to lose out while they wait for a restock.

[Robdj]

Yeah - first time i've bothered to pre-order anything cause for convenience and wanted a few listens before the london gig.

In actual fact I've had frustration, then tried to buy it off i tunes which has lead to my i tunes breaking completely, lost a whole evening trying to mend my i tunes and failing, so now can't change the songs on my i-pod and still have none of the new f*cking music!
Also my leg really hurts cause pulled a muscle yesterday so might be too injured to jump around on sunday (can't really blame that on amazon though)

It's all poo!!!!!

[Banky]

I just got the 'delayed' e-mail too. Cocking Amazon.

I'm torn between ordering from HMV/Cargo and hoping it gets here by Saturday, or popping into Reading to try the Fopp or the HMV.

Gnaargh. What are people's experiences of ordering from Cargo?

[Ean]

Not heard a bad word ever.

If you can get your order in earlyish tomorrow (wednesday) morning, there's a slim chance you might get it next day, or at least by Friday.

[Banky]

I ordered from Fopp in the end, they despatched this afternoon and gave me a 2 day delivery estimate. Should be alright!

[Ean]

I ordered from Fopp in the end, they despatched this afternoon and gave me a 2 day delivery estimate. Should be alright!

I discovered that we have a Fopp in Kidderminster (a few miles from me) a couple of days ago, that I never knew was there before. I walked in and immediately heard my credit cards screaming for mercy from inside my wallet.

[Banky]

I ordered from Fopp in the end, they despatched this afternoon and gave me a 2 day delivery estimate. Should be alright!

I discovered that we have a Fopp in Kidderminster (a few miles from me) a couple of days ago, that I never knew was there before. I walked in and immediately heard my credit cards screaming for mercy from inside my wallet.

Arf, that's why my girlfriend bands me from going in music shops anymore.

Anyhoo ALBUM ARRIVED TODAY! Wheeeeee!!!

I'm only on 'Revolution', but it sounds all good to me! Will report back with a more indepth review in the other thread.

One thing - are all copies of the cd case made in that cheap cardboard style, or are there multiple editions? It's just that, awesome as this album (so far) is, the case feels a little cheap, like as if a local band had made it something. Bah, not complaining mind, never judge a book by its cover etc. etc.

[Ean]

Cool, they're pretty bloody quick too then. *makes note of Fopp website for further trashing of bank account*

I suppose it depends how far the parcel's got to travel?

Yeah, they're all digipacks, but you can at least have the satisfaction of that little slot thing to keep the booklet in - the Japanese version doesn't even get that, and they've got the booklet, the lyric sheet and the OBI strip to keep track of.