So... The new album then... well? - Expect Spoilers.

[Trudi]

Well done Trudi

Thankfully it wasn't *completely* me being a feckwit, the software corrupted - all the tracks were still there, the iPod just couldn't find 'em! One reset and update later and all is right with the world...just wish I'd noticed last night...

[Robdj]

Rooting for the Bad Guy is for me, let down by twee and cheesy lyrics... but hey ho, it's a cracking tune.

Think i agree with that. May be heresy but IMHO Ginger has been prone to a few naff lyrics in recent years
eg. The whole of Better than cable and a few other examples.

I'm ready to dodge the missiles but think it's Ok to say that because he has also, without doubt, written more of my favourite lyrics than any other songwriter in the world and the lyrics have meant more to me than any one else.

[kriscoverdale]

... and the lyrics have meant more to me than any one else.

They mean more to me

[Robdj]

... and the lyrics have meant more to me than any one else.

They mean more to me

I mean they mean more to me than the lyrics anyone else has written.
But whilst we're at it..... shall we start a competition? Who do the lyrics mean most to and why? could be a whole new thread
Actually, take out the competition part and you could have a kind of group counselling via music.

[WiredOut]

Rooting for the Bad Guy is for me, let down by twee and cheesy lyrics... but hey ho, it's a cracking tune.

Think i agree with that. May be heresy but IMHO Ginger has been prone to a few naff lyrics in recent years
eg. The whole of Better than cable and a few other examples.

I'm ready to dodge the missiles but think it's Ok to say that because he has also, without doubt, written more of my favourite lyrics than any other songwriter in the world and the lyrics have meant more to me than any one else.

I can see why you'd think that, although I find the lyrics endearing in terms of their unusual subject matter, their genuine affection for pop culture, the nostalgia factor and the way they seem to represent these figures as formative influences in making Ginger the big crazy rebel rock'n'roll bastard pirate we're all glad he is. Plus, the images of crucified Tweety Pies and Kentucky-Fried Thunderbirds are funny.

[Robdj]

After a couple of listens yes, it has grown on me a bit and there are a few really good songs on it.
Agree that some of the songs are overlong (as with Yoni). I think it means the songs don't sound as tight and the album itself is not as cohesive as it could be. It kind of wanders off to often to me and loses direction and doesn't hold my attention the whole way through. It just doesn't feel complete. Like Must be destoryed it feels a little like a collection of songs (of varying quality) and not a whole, united album.

There are some really good songs but it doesn't come close to the first two studio records and would have to say that a 3K review seems about right for me.
I think the first half of the record is also a lot better than the second half.

I'm not bitter, just a little disappointed

[Wrenaldo]

I do like this album a lot...

...but for me it ranks below EarthVs, Phuq & FFL/FFML. And to be fair it doesn't really have a typical track that could get pushed as an airplay-worthy single. Even Must Be Destroyed had Top of the World and Vanilla Radio. Not that I'm saying single sales matter, just that a popular single would get the band and the album noticed and introduced to more people.

Overall, it's a solid effort but it contains an awkward mix of the innovative and the derivative that may prevent it getting classic status. In all honesty I prefered Valor or Black Leather Mojo by a mile.

My tip is get rid of the last two tracks, and reverse the track order and I think it becomes a more cohesive album.

Anyway, after another 20 listens I may have changed my mind again.

[seventieslord]

Holy shit is all I have to say.

It's everything I hoped it would be.

The anger and aggression of Earth vs.

The riffage and anthemic choruses of PHUQ

The long, meandering, buggering about of FFL

The grandeur and loudness of Endless Nameless

and the Melodic pop of TWMBD.

I'm blown away.

[zeroluck]

Like a lot of people on here, been into The Wildhearts since day one.....and loved everything they did up to "must be destroyed". I only really liked Vanilla Radio off that album, the rest just didn't have that usual classic riffy Wildhearts feel to it.

Then after a few years and numerous splits, they're back and they release this.....its a good comeback album. BUT.....I don't think its as good as some people on here are saying. I'd give it 7 out of 10. There are some really strong tracks like Rooting for the bad guy and The Sweetest Song, but there are also a few which have that dreaded "filler" feel to them. A bit like the solo albums!

I know it will definitely grow on me more, but I just don't think it has that "WOOAAAHH" feeling to it like classic Wildhearts. Hoping that they'll stay together for long enough to make a classic follow-up though!!

IT'S BLOODY GOOD TO HAVE THEM BACK THOUGH!!!!!!!!

[shockingcandy]

Holy shit is all I have to say.

It's everything I hoped it would be.

The anger and aggression of Earth vs.

The riffage and anthemic choruses of PHUQ

The long, meandering, buggering about of FFL

The grandeur and loudness of Endless Nameless

and the Melodic pop of TWMBD.

I'm blown away.

That is EXACTLY it!

[markE]

okay three days in...

rooting sounds exactly like i thought it would (which is a good thing)
sweetest song - love the chorus but donit like the bile filled lyrics
revolution - keep wanting to sing white riot after hearing it, great song.
new flesh - been singin it loads (badly mind you)
slaughtered - a grower. didn't really like the chorus at first buit after repeated listens i'm liking it.
hard way - love this song! (but what are boiled guitar strings about?)
inner city overture - like it.
bi polar baby - i love this. bit weird walking round work singing a jaunty little song about stabbing people in the heart tho'
she's all that - love the uh huhs. great song
destroy - loving this one!!! but for some reason the chorus reminds me of counterfeit by limp biskit

all round - I love it.

GOD BLESS THE WILDHEARTS

[Ross]

hard way - love this song! (but what are boiled guitar strings about?)

If your guitar strings are getting old and scratty, boiling them makes them nice and clean again. Usually it's musicians scraping by on two quid a day that do this. Our bassist used to.

[Sir Euan]

One little thing I was hoping for on this album which they haven't done since Phuq (and a little bit but not really on FFL) is having a few songs meld into each other. Like the way headfuck screeches into suckerpunch or how baby strange and nita nitro join seamlessly or how lily's gardens's slowly warms up and explodes with getting it.

Shame cos that little touch on this album would help bring all the songs together I think.

That being said this is probably gonna be one of my fave wildies albums, definately up there with the first 2 for me, if maybe a little incomplete.

[Matt3dBsDOWN]

Hi eveyone

I have to say I have been blown away by Yoni and The new 'Hearts album. Absolutely loving the extended bits within the songs and those riffs on Destroy all Monster and Rooting for... in particular are absolutely huuuuge. Trademark big choruses thrown in au natural and everyones a winner....

Am now officially gagging for the show on Sunday:)
Splendid!

[markE]

If your guitar strings are getting old and scratty, boiling them makes them nice and clean again. Usually it's musicians scraping by on two quid a day that do this. Our bassist used to.

thanks Ross. that makes perfect sense now.