Shit review in Uncut

[shadow]

You ever think that perhaps he genuinely didn't like the album? That maybe....just maybe there's someone out there who doesn't think every single thing ginger does is genius, amazing, classic, faultless and wonderful.

I think it's a pretty poorly worded interview, maybe a bit unnessecarily vicious towards them but in some respects I think he has a point. But that's probably just me :

well bang--it seems like you n me seem to be locked in a bit of mutual agreement at the moment and its us against the wildieworld---i totally agree with you---why are the wildies so blinkered---then again their loyalty is commendable if somewhat restrictive

[29xTheJames]

if people are saying the wildhearts arent brilliant, then why are they here?

this is a forum for fans of the band to talk about why wildhearts are there fave band. of course were gonna post on here that ginger is great, cj the best and so on. thats why forums exist: for people who like something to talk to other people who agree. im not saying everything WH have done is amazing (god we admit that much ourselfs at times, like EN), but i think we have every right to say that review is way uncalled for and is wrong to say the album isnt good. but anyway, if you still think UNCUT are right to say that, im not gonna try and change your mind. but i will say this: just remember nearly everyone here loves the band and new album, so be careful what you say.

[Zo]

It's not anyone against anyone as far as I can see... Surely we're all allowed different opinions? No need to be taking 'sides' if anyone disagrees is there?

[29xTheJames]

Thats what i said at the end of my last post. Im not saying people cant express different views to others, but its abit obvious were all here because we love the band.

[Zo]

Yeah, i was agreeing with you Sorry, should have quoted the post above yours to make it a little clearer!!

[kriscoverdale]

You ever think that perhaps he genuinely didn't like the album? That maybe....just maybe there's someone out there who doesn't think every single thing ginger does is genius, amazing, classic, faultless and wonderful.

Yep, and that's fair enough. However as a reviewer, I think you have an obligation to be a bit more descriptive about the item you're reviewing. Otherwise every review might as well read: "People who are fans of this band or this style of music will like it, everyone else may as well steer clear..."

On the point of people not liking things Ginger does, that's fair enough. What sometimes causes annoyance however is an implication that those who like [insert latest Ginger release here] are merely following blindly and would buy anything Ginger released and say it was the best thing ever. Respect works both ways, and respecting people's right to like something is just as important as respecting people's right to dislike / criticise something.

Cheers
Kris

[Damian]

Well said, Kris. It's fair to say that I'm pretty much an evangelist for more or less everything he's done - the solo stuff, and both the last poppy(ish) Wildhearts album and the current riff-monster. But I'd be the first to admit I never 'got' "Endless Nameless".

Apart from that though, everything he's done is genius - I am right and everyone who disagrees with that is wrong.

[jackdaw4]

You have to remember that reviews are simply one person's opinion.

Plus they are always edited...

don't worry... I'm not sure that Uncut readers are really the core for The Wildhearts... they are more Classic Rock.

[kitescreech]

Ive always had an isue with a review - who should write it, a fan, a non-fan or a neutral ? Ive read some PC mags in the past which have a main review and a mini review by some one else with a (usually) different view.
I remeber Classic Rock gave Green Day's "American Idiot" 1/5, and later voted it album of the year (or in the top 3 at any rate).

Still, the review is wank.

[Best In Me]

It's hardly a smashing review, but remember the context. It's, what, 100 words? As somebody who does review music for an accredited publication, I can tell you it's difficult to condense your opinion of an entire album into that small space, let alone explaining each point to your own satisfaction. If it'd been a full-length review he'd have been able to elaborate properly, but when you're given a paragraph to work with, you basically need to trim all of the fat off.

[Bang!]

If people are saying the wildhearts arent brilliant, then why are they here?

Perhaps they used to think they were brilliant, perhaps they're new to the band and wanted to know more, perhaps they do think they're brilliant but also think they released a less than brilliant album. Or are none of those reasons for being here exceptable to elitist idiots like you?

thats why forums exist: for people who like something to talk to other people who agree

Is it? Sorry I must have missed the grand forum opening where they labelled that as their sole reason for existing. And there I was thinking they might be used for meeting people, for topical debate, for open discussion on anything of interest be it negative or positive.

im not saying everything WH have done is amazing (god we admit that much ourselfs at times, like EN

Right....so you're alllowed to say which albums you like or dislike, which songs you think are perfect and which lyrics you think are bad but others arn't? "We" can't agree with a review purely becuase you don't?

just remember nearly everyone here loves the band and new album, so be careful what you say

And that is utterly laughable. Somewhat sums up the poor attitude of a few (notice only a few, most on here seem like gems) members of the forums.

Feel free to reply, your incredibly well thoughtout and intelligently argued post wasn't exactely challenging to answer

And for good measure one more chuckle at your amusing forum threats

[Stuart Brackpool]

My Two Penn'orth...It's obvious that we're all drawn here by the musical stylings of Ginger. Some will like everything he's done, others most of what he's done, still others only one of his projects. However, I do feel that we're all intelligent enough to not be blindly partisan and slaveringly love everything he does without thought or critique. Fortunately, he does seem to have a very heightened sense of quality control for the music that's released (through official channels). We can all be thankful for that. Let people like what they like and don't make childish threats. Be dignified, rise above.

Thanks for reading.

[Dark Lord of Barnet]

I remeber Classic Rock gave Green Day's "American Idiot" 1/5

That's Classic Rock's credibility totally destroyed as far as I'm concerned. I'm convinced that is an absolute classic album and will be regarded as such in future years.

[Nickinvincible]

I remeber Classic Rock gave Green Day's "American Idiot" 1/5

That's Classic Rock's credibility totally destroyed as far as I'm concerned. I'm convinced that is an absolute classic album and will be regarded as such in future years.

hear hear. american idiot is one of the finest albums of recent years, in my opinion

[Soundog]

Or are none of those reasons for being here exceptable to elitist idiots like you?

I don't think there was any threat intended, and I'm sure everyone here agrees that each member is entitled to their own opinions of the music (like I think that Bang! is a pretty lame song except for the Who rip off bit, for example) and discussion is welcome. But please cut out the insults, that's helping no one, least of all the one who uses them.

I would've included an allusion to the typo, but I'm scared to be labelled elitist.