Bi-Polar Baby

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Postby pete gusher » 8th May 07, 13:32

geordierussell wrote:Wanting to kill and actually killing are two different things.

The sound is more about the feelings and emotions that bi polar can bring about.


i was gonna say the same thing. beat me to it
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Postby Ross » 8th May 07, 13:45

Dairylea Roth wrote:I guess so- but it's more light-hearted isn't it? '..Headfuck' is saying 'this relationship is fucking with my head i need to get out' - not 'I'm so sick of my girlfriend's clinical depression that I want to kill her'.


I thought it was about Ginger's clinical depression being so bad that he wanted to kill someone, and goes from that light/shade imagery with the beautiful melodies coupled with lyrics that make you a little uncomfortable (what I always saw as The Wildhearts' trademark).
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Postby Orient » 8th May 07, 14:05

I was under he impression the song was regarding Ginger's depression, not his girlfriend's.
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Postby Workyticket » 8th May 07, 15:30

Orient wrote:I was under he impression the song was regarding Ginger's depression, not his girlfriend's.


Actually, that's a good interpretation of it. Not the only one of course, but it makes a lot of sense.

As the others have said, it's not about wanting to literally kill your partner but the desperate thoughts one can think in a sprained relationship (And having recently broken up with a girl who wasn't exactly, erm, the most stable schooner in the harbour herself, I can relate to the song a hell of a lot too)

It's true that anti-sexism has always been a strong theme in Ginger's lyrics, but so has honesty - often brutally so. Our Ginge has never been one to butter up a sentiment for the sake of pretty lyrics. To be fair, the Bi-Polar Baby surprised me too at first, but that's just a reaction to the sheer nakedness of the lyrics. Ginger's always been open about his past, and knowing what we know about his childhood etc. makes the very thought of him being a woman-beater (Or even slightly condoning that kind of behaviour) pretty much impossible.
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Postby Dairylea Roth » 8th May 07, 18:46

Orient wrote:I was under he impression the song was regarding Ginger's depression, not his girlfriend's.


So he's calling himself 'baby'? Looking at the lyrics on the wildhearts site it's basically about another relationship gone bad, just clumsy use of the phrase 'bi-polar'.
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Postby pete gusher » 8th May 07, 19:47

i think they are talking about headfuck

i like the lyrics to bi polar baby
so nur nur
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Postby Robdj » 8th May 07, 20:57

Don't see it as sexist at all.
Think it says its Ok to be really angry at soemone, Ok to have some of those feelings - doesn't say that he's gonna act on them

plus his bags are packed and he is gonna get away and say goodbye because he konws the way he's feeling lately aint really a good way to feel about someone.
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Postby lemon & ginger » 9th May 07, 12:02

surely it is written from the person ginger was in a relationship with's perspective. dunno if people have said that, it is hard to decipher.

let's call the person A and ginger G so he is singing from A's perspective and A wants to stick a knife in G, etc.

Not sure this makes sense!
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Postby beerofthedark » 9th May 07, 12:33

lemon & ginger wrote:let's call the person A and ginger G so he is singing from A's perspective and A wants to stick a knife in G, etc.

Algebra?! The songs about algebra?!
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Postby Orient » 9th May 07, 13:21

surely it is written from the person ginger was in a relationship with's perspective. dunno if people have said that, it is hard to decipher.

let's call the person A and ginger G so he is singing from A's perspective and A wants to stick a knife in G, etc.

Not sure this makes sense!


I agree with this, it's hard to explain but I still think Ginger is talking about himself with regards the "issues", not her. Or maybe a mix of both, if "a" is also the subject of "sweetest song" and "destroy" it doesnt sound like "g" holds "a" in a favourable light at the moment which might lead to him decribing her as being a bit of a nutter, could be wrong of course, and probably am.

*edit* disclaimer...I'm not describing people with Bipolar as "nutters" before anyone says it!
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Postby kitescreech » 9th May 07, 18:18

just clumsy use of the phrase 'bi-polar'.


Bi-Polar Psychosis anyone ?
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Postby fluffygrue » 9th May 07, 18:30

lemon & ginger wrote:surely it is written from the person ginger was in a relationship with's perspective. dunno if people have said that, it is hard to decipher. let's call the person A and ginger G so he is singing from A's perspective and A wants to stick a knife in G, etc.


That was my interpretation on the first few listens.. but now I'm not entirely sure. *ponder*
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Postby horrid_jon » 9th May 07, 19:34

Jesus, people. Quit overanalysing everything.

It's about a crazy psycho hose beast ex-girlfriend and how he realised things were going to have to change because he wanted to jam a knife through her heart and tear her fucking world apart. I love the song, and I don't care if people think that it's sexist (it isn't) or promotes violence against women (it doesn't). And by the way, for those who are throwing accusations of sexism around ... if it's violence against men then it's fine, I guess? No problems there, eh? Double standards at all?

I think it's sung from Ginger's point of view because of the line "Here's the money and here's the flat". I just can't imagine a woman saying that at the end of a relationship. Maybe I'm sexist?

This song is an absolute gem. The chorus and harmonies are brilliant... I love the initial harmony where he sings "it's as if somebody switched you while I was asleep."
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Postby kitescreech » 9th May 07, 21:33

3 letters.

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T
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Postby lemon & ginger » 10th May 07, 10:43

it's sexist (it isn't) or promotes violence against women (it doesn't).


well thanks for sorting that out for us. there was us debating the issue and all along all we needed was someone to tell us the correct answer.

i'm sure it isn't either of those two things but how exactly do you know that?
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