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Postby shockingcandy » 9th Oct 07, 22:39

OK a mate of mine used to work out Our Price some years back and if I remember it correctly he said it worked like this:

Distis (like Cargo) persuade retail chains to take singles by doing ridiculous deals that might involve them getting say 3 free copies for every 1 copy they buy and the copy they "buy" is on a sale or return basis and so they can never be out of pocket. Thus, it matters little to them if they don't sell or even put the damn thing on display.

Basically for many years now singles have been treated simply as advertising for the album by labels. Sales of "physical" singles are pretty small (wasn't there a week a couple of years ago when the number one single sold only around 4000 copies?) and the revenue they generate is also small compared to an album (i.e. £3 vs £10).

Additionally The Wildhearts have a loyal fanbase but are hardly "the next big thing" (that's not a dig, the industry is a fickle beast) and Cargo is not exactly EMI (again not a dig but the reality is the big corporate giant's releases will get priority as they will do more business with the retailer).

It is of course still possible that someone fucked up and the delivery of the records was delayed. Who knows? Either way unless the song was getting heavy air play I doubt it would have made much difference to the final sales
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Postby chiefdave » 9th Oct 07, 23:55

Ean wrote:I don't know whether its the WH specifically, or Cargo in general...?

it's hardly cargos fault if it's in the store and the staff can't be bothered to put it out!!!
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Postby nuno75 » 10th Oct 07, 00:40

Empty mailbox yet again...
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Postby shockingcandy » 10th Oct 07, 00:43

nuno75 wrote:Empty mailbox yet again...


Probably not Cargo's fault either - there's a post strike on and last I heard we weren't expecting any mail until Thursday at the earliest
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Postby geordierussell » 10th Oct 07, 01:31

The posties round here get the horn every time a car drives past...
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Postby Trudi » 15th Oct 07, 15:17

I was in HMV Covent Garden last night and picked up one copy of the CD and two vinyl - they still have one CD and three vinyl in stock.
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Postby Ean » 15th Oct 07, 15:29

geordierussell wrote:The posties round here get the horn every time a car drives past...

Is that some weird autophilia fetish thing your posties have got going on?! :shock:
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Postby colzo666 » 15th Oct 07, 18:47

Remember someone saying they couldn't find it in HMV, Belfast.
Went to Virgin in Belfast yesterday (just round the corner from HMV), and got the single for £3!

The guy was very helpful, and kindly went upstairs into the store room to get the CD.

There were only 4 copies left. And the one I bought was the first one sold, according to him!


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Postby nuno75 » 15th Oct 07, 22:55

Just for the record, my copy has still not arrived.
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Postby fluffygrue » 15th Oct 07, 23:14

I bought a spare. It didn't exactly help their chart position, though.. :/

(If anyone's getting impatient, I can post it tomorrow if someone chucks £3.50 at me by Paypal.. PM me!)
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Postby Damian » 16th Oct 07, 12:57

Mine finally arrived today. It was sent before the post strikes began, to be fair to HMV.
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Postby Chris Davies » 16th Oct 07, 13:41

Anyone had theres from cargo yet ?

They sent me an email on the 4th I think and still nothing. I know the postal strike and all but just wondering if anyones had it from there yet.
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Postby fluffygrue » 16th Oct 07, 13:45

I'm still waiting on delivery of a CD from ebay, a CD from Amazon marketplace, and a bundle of CDs from Amazon.. all of which were ordered aaaages ago. I suspect Royal Mail are prioritising letters and parcels are at the bottom of the pile.

Either that, or some posties are enjoying a rather obscure selection of new music.. :/
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Postby Zo » 17th Oct 07, 11:22

Chris Davies wrote:Anyone had theres from cargo yet ?

They sent me an email on the 4th I think and still nothing. I know the postal strike and all but just wondering if anyones had it from there yet.


yeah, I have. I think I was lucky in that it landed on my doormat the day before the strikes started, so didn't get cuaght up in all that. Have you tried emailing Joe to see if maybe he can track it or something??
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Postby shockingcandy » 17th Oct 07, 11:26

Zo wrote:
Chris Davies wrote:Anyone had theres from cargo yet ?

They sent me an email on the 4th I think and still nothing. I know the postal strike and all but just wondering if anyones had it from there yet.


yeah, I have. I think I was lucky in that it landed on my doormat the day before the strikes started, so didn't get cuaght up in all that. Have you tried emailing Joe to see if maybe he can track it or something??


Mine arrived next day too so I guess I was also lucky and just missed the strike
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