Q:VDC... Boring? A: Yes!!

[firedup]

Just finished listening to the album again, this time on my big fuck-off surround sound system thing. Sounds fucking brilliant.

Not sure where your coming from on this one, production sounds OK to me. Music that is over produced can be sometimes a bit 'false' sounding anyway. With Gingers albums it generally sounds the same live as it does on the CD. There are probably 1 or 2 tracks that I don't get along with but overall its some of his best work yet. Suggest urgent visit to doctors to check hearing / sanity.[/quote]

[SteveP]

Just listen to the production on 'Earth Vs..'. That was terrible,

fropm memory its not the production, its just that the guy doing the reording used really really bad tape, i think i saw a comment that it wasnt even as good as the stuff he used to record demo's.

I remember reading that it was the demos that they completed and released, so that would account for the slightyly inferior quality

[Damian]

People are certainly entitled to dislike it, and to post as such on here, but registering with a username that equates to a playground taunt and posting just the once... in Internet parlance I believe they use the term 'trolling'. I could be wrong... feel free to prove otherwise...

[nyanyanya]

People are certainly entitled to dislike it, and to post as such on here, but registering with a username that equates to a playground taunt and posting just the once... in Internet parlance I believe they use the term 'trolling'. I could be wrong... feel free to prove otherwise...

Not a troll! Username that equates to.... ??

Sub-standard is of course too harsh. Quality control from a manager/producer perhaps?
Less songs on the album would've been a better choice in MY opinion.
Too many filler tracks makes the album "boring".

And I happen to think that Endless Nameless is an excellent sounding album. This one is not!

Again this is of course only MY opinion.

Sleep Well

Nate

[chris_j]

I think that I sort of felt the same way when I first heard the album - I thought that the production was a bit iffy and I'd have left a few of the tracks off there if it was me. However, thinking about it now, I don't think that i could bear to take a single song off there... so I definitely changed my mind there

Roll on tonight!

[psychodoyle2002]

I wasn't a huge fan of the production but I thought the album had a bunch of great songs on it, The first disc is wall to wall quality in my opinion.

Wasn't as big a fan of some of disc 2 though, L.O.V.E didn't sit at all well with me. Other than that good songs, just not as good as disc 1.

I really like the album though, looking forward to tonight when I FINALLY get to go see Ginger live.

[Ross]

I'd personally lose Paramour, Ugly and Your Mouth... They smack of filler. Otherwise, the songs are so well crafted and put together that there's not one on there that I could bear to lose...

Just imagine the album kicking off with Mother City, that would be great.

[kris]

Im loving everything about the album myself.

Wasnt keen on L.O.V.E at all on the first few times i listened to the album but after listening to the alum start to finish a few times i'd say all songs warrant being on there in the running order they are.
I love the song Ugly but personaly dont think it would fit anywhere on the album other than being the first track.

[evildave]

I agree to a large extent nynya. As I've posted before:

I'm delighted that Ginge made this record but I've not really gotten into it as an album. It's just not grabbed me. The songs are generally very good, I'd say but it just feels unfinished. Like a demo or something. The snare sound is appalling. Sounds like they triggered it so every hit sounds identical.

Ginge is still the man but this one is just "meh" for me. Roll on the next one!

[Glen666]

What the Fuck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VDC is perhaps the best album I've ever heard. The production is great, it's not as polished as bands like Nickelback and that kind of dirge, but I love it because of that.

L.O.V.E and Your Mouth took a few listens but they break up the sing-a-long rock quite nicely.

Anyone who doesn't like this album, can't possibly know or love Gingers songwriting
at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why are you on this board ?????

[nyanyanya]

VDC is perhaps the best album I've ever heard. The production is great, it's not as polished as bands like Nickelback and that kind of dirge, but I love it because of that.

Great for you. I'm sure a lot of people love this album. I don't. Sorry.
evildave is spot on. It feels unfinished like a demo.

Anyone who doesn't like this album, can't possibly know or love Gingers songwriting
at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not true. Ginger's written busloads of excellent songs. I just happen to not like this bunch of songs very much.

Why are you on this board ????

Why? Why not?
Should I be disqualified for some reason for having an opinion that differs from yours?
Weird!

Be Nice

N.

[Damian]

Hiya... nope, that's fine. I thought it was possibly a wind-up at first but you've backed it up and everyone's entitled to their own opinion, so sorry. Me, I never 'got' Endless Nameless at all...

I absolutely love Valor Del Corazon, mind!

[Zo]

Why are you on this board ????

Why? Why not?
Should I be disqualified for some reason for having an opinion that differs from yours?
Weird!

Be Nice

N.

No, of course not - it's just bizarre that someone should join a board and be posting about a band that have (at the moment) only one album, and you dont like that album. It baffles me.

[wez_wildheart]

on the first listen i was a bit 'hmm' but second listen it caught on.the only problem i have with the album is that my favourite track changes.now it's 'My Friend The Enemy'

that song is a video waiting to happen.'Only Lonely' was the Wildhearts single that was never released.'Drinking In The Daytime' is this album's 'Sky Babies' and the 'since it all began...' line, well bands could make a whole song based on it alone.

all in all a fucking great album.if you don't like it fair enough, you can't like EVERYTHING i suppose.

[andy_b]

No, of course not - it's just bizarre that someone should join a board and be posting about a band that have (at the moment) only one album, and you dont like that album. It baffles me.

This is something that I'm still a bit undecided about. This album is billed as the first Sonic Circus album, but the album itself is released as a Ginger album - the Sonic Circus thing came about after the album as a band to tour it with. For that reason, I see it as a continuation of his solo releases. Granted, it's different than his previous solo stuff, but still his solo stuff non-the-less.

This is only my opinion though! What I want to see as the 'proper' first release of a Sonic Circus album is the next one that will be written. I hope the current band all have a part to play in it's creation, because what was apparent to me from the recent gigs was that the whole band is full of very talented musicians, and I think they'd all be able to input something special to it.

Saying that (backtrack, backtrack!), VDC is pretty much entirely Ginger's work, and that's gotta be a reason why it sounds so great, so do you want to mess with a formula that works? Christ, what the hell do I know! Just give us the next album and another tour and I'll be happy

To come back to a previous point though, when I first got the album and MP3'd it for work/car, there were a few songs that sounded really rough. Playing them from the CD though, they sounded fine. Ain't had that with many of my MP3's...

Andy B