Market Harbour Un-Availability

[buddychrist]

Sadly for me, Ginger might as well have released 'Market Harbour' on limited edition of 100, Japanese Import 78RPM Vinyl & 8 Track Tape only.

In the Highlands it's always difficult buying Wildhearts/Ginger's new material upon release. I had to mail order 'Yoni'. It didn't appear in stores up here for 6 weeks after the release date!!!

This time around I'm totally fucked though, I don't have a credit card & I-tunes won't allow me to Click&Buy. At the earliest I'm going to have the album in a week or two...How many of you could wait that long? (Oh, and the I-tunes version is censored too...BOLLOCKS)

Like most of you I think Ginger is the greatest songwriter on planet earth, shame his material isn't more freely available to 'all' of his fans!

Pissed Off, Yes!!!

[nig1012]

move house dude

[Ean]

Sadly for me, Ginger might as well have released 'Market Harbour' on limited edition of 100, Japanese Import 78RPM Vinyl & 8 Track Tape only.

In the Highlands it's always difficult buying Wildhearts/Ginger's new material upon release. I had to mail order 'Yoni'. It didn't appear in stores up here for 6 weeks after the release date!!!

Most people on here mail order - usually straight from Cargo Records as, on the whole, they're more reliable than the usual suspects.

This time around I'm totally fucked though, I don't have a credit card & I-tunes won't allow me to Click&Buy. At the earliest I'm going to have the album in a week or two...How many of you could wait that long? (Oh, and the I-tunes version is censored too...BOLLOCKS)

Yep. Complete bollocks in fact! I just downloaded Couple Trouble (the only song with a swearword listed in the sleeve lyrics - so maybe the only one on there?) and it's very much intact. It's actually only listed as 'clean lyrics' - which 99.9% of it is.

Like most of you I think Ginger is the greatest songwriter on planet earth, shame his material isn't more freely available to 'all' of his fans!

Pissed Off, Yes!!!

I sympathise with your situation but, unless you're too young to leave home or have a credit card, it seems a bit harsh to blame anyone apart from yourself for where you choose to live and that you don't have a card. The last sentence seems to somehow imply that it's Ginger's fault?

Oh and welcome to the board BTW.

[buddychrist]

Thanks Folks!

yes, sorry if it seemed like I was blaming Ginger....That's just a poor choice of wording on my part.

If there's only 1 naughty word on the album then that's not so bad, The I-Tunes version will be fine until my Cd copy arrives. I just had visions of a 'Sweetest Song' type bleep fest (Which was very funny).

I choose not to have a credit card as they are, lets face it, an accessory to suicide for so many people (Including a close friend of mine).

Relocating to accomodate my music tastes, that's a good one.

Cheers Y'all

[Loki]

can someone post the link to the album from itunes? I have searched for it and it doesn't come up.

I've ordered my copy from hmv japan... should have it in 10 days or so but the internet has made me fiercely impatient.

[buddychrist]

Hi Loki,

It sounds like you might be set to the American store - It seems to do that until you give it a smack!

If you set up an account it should re-set your location to the UK. Then just pop 'Ginger' into your 'search store box' & wallah up it'll pop. If you've got dollar signs against the album prices then this is almost certainly the problem.

It's also available to buy digitally from HMV online in a similar fashion.

Hey, I'm assuming you live over here, if not I ain't got a scooby!

Hope this helps anyway.

[Loki]

Cheers man,

Yeah I'm based in Australia... I'll give it a shot and hope it works.

[Loki]

Argh, won't let me change my address to the UK due to billing address bullshit. Most frustrating...

[Ean]

Yeah, unfortunately your method of payment needs to be registered in the same country as the store you want to use. I think that might be changing soon though?

This is a general link to the album on itunes and will take you to your local store if the album is available there.

This is a direct link specific to the UK store.

The worldwide situation should change imminently following the recent signing of a distribution deal. See this post.

[Ean]

Buddychrist, can you borrow somebody's credit card for ten minutes? - It won't cost them any money whatsoever.

If so, you can get Market Harbour from emusic using the 25 free downloads when you sign up.

You have to give them a card number to prove you are real, but they don't charge the account until you've been a member for 14 days, so you can just cancel the account as soon as you've downloaded the album.

[DangerousBeans]

Buddychrist can't you use a debit card..or even get a cheque book?
I know it's not ideal for Internet shopping but you would be alright with the likes of Amazon and can only spend what you have in the bank.

However you're spot on about the ditribution up here(i'm not in the highlands either)i tried to get the single Casino Bay from HMV in Ayr which i was assured on the e mail and Facebook messages i got would be stocking the single.When i went in to ask for it they apologised and said that they did actually order it in but the supplier hadn't bothered to send it.

I ordered the album straight from Cargo and had no problems but Market Harbour hasn't arrived in Ayr yet either.

Took ages to get The Wildhearts album in as well...so i'm not sure if it's HMV that are the problem.

[buddychrist]

Thanks for the replies folks.

What I've decided to do is mail order the album from 'The Rock Box'. They always provide a great service & I can't promote them enough. In the interim though I might brave the elements & buy an i-tunes voucher in the big city, Even though it's fucking ridiculous that I have to travel 40 miles to do so...It's the simplest short term solution. I'll plan better or get a card for future releases.

With regards HMV in the Highlands & seemingly other parts of Scotland, I'd say it was the management that was the problem. In the first place they're mis-informed about music unless it appeals to their shitty goth dispositions. Secondly, when they do order a lower key release, it's in such a small number that distribution companies probably think...Fuck, is this a joke!

'The Wildhearts' album was in on release date, but promoted as the Import version. The Howling Willie album came in on time also, they had about 50 of the buggers, but these are isolated examples. Everything else is always met with a 'Hey, I don't want it...so I don't really give a flying fuck' type response!!!

Off course none of this has anything to do with Ginger as an artist, Only the way in which his music is made available. I suppose that's why 'Round Records' are on I-Tunes in the first place though. My only grievance with that is the clean edits...On the whole that's Ok, but other than for comic or completist reasons would anyone want 'The Sweetest Song' Clean Version.

It's an issue that is open to a lot of discussion I'd say. Then there's gig's....

[DangerousBeans]

Thanks for the replies folks.
It's an issue that is open to a lot of discussion I'd say. Then there's gig's....

You should start a Wildhearts/Ginger for the Ironworks or Aberdeen campaign..as long as they still do Glasgow cos i'm no trailing up there.

[Jimmy79]

buddychrist is obviously gonna buy it , why cant we just send it him in a file?
( steps back and waits for verbal beating** )

[buddychrist]

Hi folks,

Thankfully, the Lord has now blessed me with a download of the album 'till my cd arrives.

Needless to say it's fucking great, I'm not gonna write a review sized SA on how much I like it because most of you will have heard it by now & the music speaks for itself.

However, one thing a lot of critics & journals didn't pick up on is the subject matter of 'Awareness & The Great Integrity'...I can only assume it's about the ancient Chinese philosophy of 'Taoism', something I know a good bit about. Infact, quite a few of his songs would seem to be influenced by the 'Tao te Ching'.

I like the modern influences on the album too. Nobody combines old school rock & fucking roll with a modern touch like Ginger.

Thanks Jimmy 79, you clearly have your head screwed on...Why didn't anyone else suggest that?

The Wildhearts have played in Aberdeen a number of times, but not in Inverness Ironworks yet. The word on the street (Which counts for fuck all) is that Ginger & Chris McCormack (who works there) don't see eye to eye, but me no-no!

All the best to ya's