Q:VDC... Boring? A: Yes!!

[Ginger_Is_God]

Hiya peeps

On forums everyone is entitled to their own opinion, whether they like certain parts of VDC is their personal taste.
Although we all love Ginger I'm sure we will all have differences on why we do.

Now I'm pretty sure that Ginger would LIKE to hear some constructive critism of his work after all we are the people who he is selling his records to.

Personally I love the album and rate it, and the live shows as some of the best that he has done, and can't wait for another album and tour,
I reckon that there is more positive comments than negative ones anyways.

Love And Peace , Aiden

[shockingcandy]

In all fairnes though, I wouldn't say this topic's subject line could be described as "constructive".

[Ginger_Is_God]

I'll agree with you there, the headline is a bit brutal.

But it caught everyone's attention and raised some feelings, so i suppose it had the desired affect

[Glen666]

Should I be disqualified for some reason for having an opinion that differs from yours?
Weird!

Be Nice

N.

Ok, Ok, Ok! I apologise for being so harsh. I think the problem was a) I had just seen the Sonic Circus live experience and was obviously caught up in the moment and b) You maybe should have chosen more wisely when naming the thread. A title like that is bound to stir up some emotion.

Everyone is of course entitled to an opinion. If everyone felt the same, it would be a fairly dull forum.

Bygones my friend.

[Mr Ross]

Didn't like it on first listen but I end up loving albums more if it takes a few listens. Sure, he could have lost a few tracks. I certainly wouldn't miss 'Your Mouth'. Generally it's a good album and the production's fine.

But, and I dunno if anyone else's copy does this, the volume levels go a bit funny towards the end of 'The Man Who Cheated Death'. I've tried it on a few cd players and it's the same thing. Wierd that.

[shockingcandy]

But, and I dunno if anyone else's copy does this, the volume levels go a bit funny towards the end of 'The Man Who Cheated Death'. I've tried it on a few cd players and it's the same thing. Wierd that.

I'd say the track (intentionally) has some pretty heavy compression on it (a bit like the S666 stuff does). If you listen to the drums build after the guitar solo you can hear the sound level being "squashed"

[Bang!]

Most of the albums fairly great, however i'd have to agree that your mouth is fairly filler-esq

Also anyone else think Change and The Way have far too similar choruses....those kinda slow anthemic gospel choruses dont really work for me anyway

but...yeah, yeah yeah, mother city, keep it cool, drinking int eh daytime, ugly etc etc are all as good as almost antyhing ginger has written before imo

[nyanyanya]

Hi All!

A great resopnse to this, which of course was my intention with the somewhat provocative header.

Of course this record will appeal to the already converted. My point is that if you want to attract new "fans" perhaps it's not such a grand idea to just record and release every idea for a song that you get.

And I still "hate" the production on this record. No bottom end etc. For me it weakens the impact of those songs on this album that *are* good songs.
I'm absolutely certain they sound a whole lot better live than on record.

Nate

ps. again, to those who keep asking why I'm even posting on this board since I don't like the record. Well, I've been a fan of all things Ginger since 1992 and this release was a real disappointment to me. I just had to vent. OK

[shockingcandy]

Hi All!

No bottom end etc.

No bottom end?! You need to invest in a new pair of speakers my friend!

[nyanyanya]

Hi All!

No bottom end etc.

No bottom end?! You need to invest in a new pair of speakers my friend!

Not really!
I have a high end system.
This record is extremely mid range heavy.

Listening again right now actually. Sound is sh**e to my ears.

Nate

[shockingcandy]

Not really!
I have a high end system.
This record is extremely mid range heavy.

Listening again right now actually. Sound is sh**e to my ears.

Nate

Mid range heavy?! Your gotta be kidding me! A little top heavy, maybe (i.e. the sound is quite bright). If I was you I'd be taking that "high end system" back to the shop and ask for a refund!

[nyanyanya]

Mid range heavy?! Your gotta be kidding me! A little top heavy, maybe (i.e. the sound is quite bright). If I was you I'd be taking that "high end system" back to the shop and ask for a refund!

Yeah, of course I'm kidding. Not!

Thanks for the advice though.
I'll sell all my gear in a week or two. Doesn't matter that most any other music sounds excellent on it.

Nate

[sonicshake]

Hi All!

No bottom end etc.

No bottom end?! You need to invest in a new pair of speakers my friend!

Not really!
I have a high end system.
This record is extremely mid range heavy.

Listening again right now actually. Sound is sh**e to my ears.

Nate

Mouthshit.

[The ? Formally Known As..]

This record is extremely mid range heavy.

Mid range heavy?! Your gotta be kidding me! A little top heavy, maybe (i.e. the sound is quite bright). If I was you I'd be taking that "high end system" back to the shop and ask for a refund!

Nah, I think Nyanyanya has a point *ducks* I do really like the albumium but sound quality-wise, put it up against something like Devin Townsend's 'Synchestra' and you can tell the difference...

[nyanyanya]

Hi All!

No bottom end etc.

No bottom end?! You need to invest in a new pair of speakers my friend!

Not really!
I have a high end system.
This record is extremely mid range heavy.

Listening again right now actually. Sound is sh**e to my ears.

Nate

Mouthshit.

Is this comment supposed to have any constructive meaning?
If so, I'm afraid you've lost me. Sorry!

Nate