WH DECEMBER UK DATES - UPDATED TO iNCLUDE VENUE CHANGES

[EvilElvis]

For those wanting to travel - Ryanair are doing 1p flight deals till Thursday


http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/

[Radish]

Can I just say, and this should probably be in another thread all of its own, but Carling Academy = thieving rip off scum bastards? Here's me thinking, I know, instead of getting scammed for booking fees and postage fees or the utterly ridiculous £2.25 charge for printing out your own fucking ticket online, I'll pop down to the Oxford Academy and buy tickets at the box office. Impressed I was not when I got there to find they charge a £1.50 per ticket booking fee if you use a card to purchase. Total ficking scam! I wouldn't expect to get to the till at HMV (not that I shop in HMV any more) to then be told my purchase would cost me an extra £1.50 per cd, it shouldn't fucking apply to any form of retail outlet! Bastards.
Of course, the innocent bod on the till said I could pay by cash and not get charged extra but at £18.50 a ticket I'd need £40 cash, didn't have any on me and not enough time to find the nearest stashpoint. Not impressed, really really not. Didn't happen when it was the Zodiac as far as I remember.
Anyway, got tickets so that's a good thing (and I'm more than willing to pay £20 for the tickets, just not happy thieving scum Carling rip £1.50 per ticket off). Can't wait to pay £9.47 (or whatever it is) for a warm can of piss-poor lager on the night now! Might just skip the thieving scum and chuck a couple of twenties in the direction of the band instead, at least they deserve it!

[Damian]

Hmmm, it's a shame you mention credit cards because it's about the only thing I can defend them on. They get charged a ton for using credit cards. It's just that large institutions often absorb the cost themselves or in some cases even operate their own card services (supermarkets being the biggest example).

Absolutely everything else about Carling venues stinks, mind. You should go to the Bristol Academy. Hell on Earth.

[Col]

Things are much better gig wise thanks to the Academy chain up N East. We missed out on even more before!!!

[weebleboy]

Things are much better gig wise thanks to the Academy chain up N East. We missed out on even more before!!!

Agreed. Overpriced drinks and a shit club night are negated by the fact that so many bands that would usually miss us out entirely come up this way!

[Radish]

Hmmm, it's a shame you mention credit cards because it's about the only thing I can defend them on. They get charged a ton for using credit cards. It's just that large institutions often absorb the cost themselves or in some cases even operate their own card services (supermarkets being the biggest example).

Absolutely everything else about Carling venues stinks, mind. You should go to the Bristol Academy. Hell on Earth.

Sorry, should have said the £1.50 charge applies to both credit cards (and I too understand the cost to businesses of accepting credit cards, especially AmEx) and debit cards. Really shouldn't apply to debit cards (which is what I paid with).
Been to the Bristol Academy, and same as with the Oxford Academy/Zodiac it was better before it was owned by Carling (although I think the Bristol venue has always been the Academy?).
Can't speak about the NE venue situation, but personally I'm not keen on chain venues, they push out the (imho) better-run independent places with their big business practice.

[Nomad]

I've never understood just how this whole "handling fee" malarkey is even legal. It just seems to have been around forever though (I recall looking at listings for AC/DC's Razor's Edge tour - what '91? - and seeing mention of it), so I'm hard pushed to believe it's never been challenged. Anyone know more?

Debit cards cost a business nearly 50p a transaction, credit cards are anywhere from 1-5% (and from the numbers of online UK retailers adding a fee for credit cards I'm suspecting it's heading upwards of late), but cash is not by any means free to handle. You have to supervise employees more closely around cash, deal with counting mistakes, invest in security and pay for change sometimes (I'm recalling a notice posted in Loughborough U that the bank was charging them 2% for supplying change, so exact money was appreciated). A pub Landlord once told me, when I asked how he'd prefer to be paid, that basically it was all swings and roundabouts to him, he'd negotiated American Express down below 1.5% on their transactions, and they paid up quickly, so that was basically better than cash for him.

[EvilElvis]

My mate is selling a ticket for Manc - She wanted to see 'A' and got Manc ticket, only for 'A' to be confirmed for all dates

She's wanting £15 for it

PM me and I'll give you contact details.

[DangerousBeans]

Tickets arrived for the Barras the other day

I can't wait.All that remains to be decided is when we're heading up to Glasgow and whit pubs we're heading to as they're a bit shite round the Barras.]

[EvilElvis]

Tickets arrived for the Barras the other day

I can't wait.All that remains to be decided is when we're heading up to Glasgow and whit pubs we're heading to as they're a bit shite round the Barras.]

They are scarily shit bars if you are a Rangers fan.

Solid it'll be for me.

[DangerousBeans]

They are scarily shit bars if you are a Rangers fan.

Solid it'll be for me.

I'm not thankfully but my hatred of the Old Firm always shines through when you get asked "Aye but who do you really support" when you say you're an Ayr United fan.

Possibly go to Denholms for a few(just next to Solid Rock as it has better measures and is way cheaper..if also a wee bit dodgy.)If they were playing the ABC i'd just stay in the Iron Horse all day.

[Andwah]

The pub right next to Barrowlands is straight out of trainspotting. I think i remember the scarves and banners from all the teams they'd beaten over the years hanging from the ceiling - a lot like skulls to Predator.

[DangerousBeans]

Yeah thats Bairds if i remember correctly.Bearable if it's before a gig.

Last time i was in there was before Biohazard and Dog Eat Dog.One of the Dog Eat Dog guitarists relatives owned it or something.



You'd think it was in Dublin.

[EvilElvis]

:D
Yeah thats Bairds if i remember correctly.Bearable if it's before a gig.

Last time i was in there was before Biohazard and Dog Eat Dog.One of the Dog Eat Dog guitarists relatives owned it or something.



You'd think it was in Dublin.

When Kenny Dalglish managed Celtic, he held a press conference in Baird's bar - to prove he listened to what the fans wanted.

[Ean]

Updated thread to include changes to venues.

Sunday 7th - Manchester - Is now in Academy 2 - http://snipurl.com/79zb0

Monday 8th - Wolverhampton - May or may not be in the Civic. The venue are telling people it's in the Wulfrun, but as far as we know, sales are good and the band are still expecting to play the Civic - http://snipurl.com/7a0y2

Wednesday 10th - London - Has moved to Kentish Town Forum - http://www.kentishtownforum.com/ - the clashing event listed is a website error and has been moved. The WH will be there on the 10th.

All original tickets remain valid.