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Postby Ean » 11th Jan 09, 02:04

Jason_scorching_past wrote:That Kerrang! review you posted is probably the best negative review you could get, laying the blame squarely on the mix.

The B-sides to Suckerpunch didn't get the greatest mix either did they, especially on Two Way Idiot Mirror.

Aye, the remix showed that both the songs and performances were there, just not the sound.

I've never had a problem with those tracks - they're probably my favourites.
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Postby Jason_scorching_past » 12th Jan 09, 22:33

Ean wrote:Aye, the remix showed that both the songs and performances were there, just not the sound.



Had a listen to the Mondo tracks now, they do sound a bit lacking in the guitars/heaviness department but like you say it does let you hear the more intricate parts. During the chorus of "Nothing Ever Changes" you can hear some intricate guitar in the Mondo version that is drowned out on the remix. Just shows how tricky it is to get that perfect mix I guess. It's really interesting to hear them, ithey are such great songs I actually like both versions now :)

"Nothing Ever Changes.." has to have the best into of any Wildhearts song, I love it.
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Postby Assmask » 12th Jan 09, 23:20

I prefer the mix on Mondo to be honest - especialy on Nothing Ever Changes - that drum beat at the beginning is great.
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Postby Ean » 13th Jan 09, 22:47

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*fetches popcorn and makes self comfortable*

And begin!
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Postby DQuinlan » 13th Jan 09, 23:08

Jebus! Did Ginger bang Mr Winwood's missus or something? Sound like a very personal rant to me...
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Postby beerofthedark » 14th Jan 09, 12:42

I may well be pissing windward, but wasn't Mr Winwood one of the people asked to provide some copy for the Reformation tour Programme? If I remember right (and it should be clear to all who know me, that that is not a given) Ginger loves Winwood's writing, and Winwood in turn is an often moody bastard who likes the Wildhearts but wouldn't let that stop him from slagging off a gig he didn't like. I don't agree with his verdict (not the best gig, but we actually got a lot of very passionate performances despite the probs), but he's entitled to his (wrong/mardy) opinions.
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Postby beerofthedark » 14th Jan 09, 12:43

Oh, and Ean - I hope you brought enough popcorn for everyone...
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Postby SiN1758 » 14th Jan 09, 14:10

Actually, I think the reviews quite fair. If I wasn't a massive Wildhearts fan, or was just checking them out for the first time, I'd have been fairly fucked off at what went on. Particularly the fact that Ginger was sulking onstage due to the bad sound, when a few songs earlier he'd admitted that there was no soundcheck.

It's only the fact that I love this band and it's various offshoots and side projects and the fact that they actually played a killer setlist that night that meant I still left happy.
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Postby Orient » 14th Jan 09, 14:37

I agree with the review. Ginger is like a watered down version of Axl Rose, if he isn't happy he makes sure nobody else is either.

When you pay a lot of money and go completely out of your way (distance and in arranging everything) to get to a show, its a kick in the teeth when the singer doesn't seem like he wants to be there and spends his time whinging on stage like a moody teenager.

I personally won't be going to anymore Wildhearts gigs unless they play in my city or I happen to be wherever they are playing. It just isn't worth it anymore MO.
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Postby Pudu » 14th Jan 09, 14:58

Orient wrote:I personally won't be going to anymore Wildhearts gigs unless they play in my city or I happen to be wherever they are playing. It just isn't worth it anymore MO.


Well I reckon the odds of them playing in Hull are pretty much zero!
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Postby Orient » 14th Jan 09, 16:41

Yes, Ginger confirmed that when I asked him! :lol:

Ah well.
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Postby Pudu » 14th Jan 09, 19:23

Although were they to play the Adelphi I would have to take a trip even if only for old times sake!
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Postby Orient » 14th Jan 09, 19:25

Yes me too :lol: Ginger played there solo didn't he? I missed it unfortunately.
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Postby Pudu » 14th Jan 09, 19:28

Didn't know that (so rather obviously didnt go either!). Best time I have had in there was watching The Almighty back in 95/96, bloody great seeing a band like that in a terraced house!
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Postby Arabiandisco » 16th Jan 09, 23:31

OK, this gig was over a month ago... but the criticism in the review is fair enough (I loved Tragedy & A, though). I'd have given it 2Ks simply because it was my first WH gig since the "shall we call it riff after riff after motherfucking riff?" shows and it was great to be able to sing along without annoying my neighbours...

I would have sworn that Ginger said they had sound-checked and thus the sound was awful (in which case leaving it to the crew might be a winning plan). I took my brother to his first WH gig - he was going primarily to see A, and he thought that there were some decent songs in there the sound was so awful that it was hard to be sure...
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